{"id":1152,"date":"2020-05-07T15:32:11","date_gmt":"2020-05-07T13:32:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.topsolid.fr\/?p=1152"},"modified":"2021-08-04T16:10:31","modified_gmt":"2021-08-04T14:10:31","slug":"swiss-turn-topsolid-cam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.topsolid.com\/fr\/swiss-turn-topsolid-cam\/","title":{"rendered":"Le Swiss Turn avec TopSolid\u2019Cam"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=\u00a0\u00bb1&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.22&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb0|0px|54px|0px|false|false\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb0|0px|0|0px|false|false\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.2.2&Prime;]<\/p>\n<p><em>Le <strong>Swiss Turn <\/strong>d\u00e9signe un type de machine \u00e0 la particularit\u00e9 d\u2019avoir la poup\u00e9e mobile.\u00a0 Les d\u00e9colleteuses sont principalement utilis\u00e9es pour les moyennes et grandes s\u00e9ries, mais \u00e9galement pour usiner des pi\u00e8ces complexes par petits lots, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 de nombreux outils, en un seul et m\u00eame programme. R\u00e9put\u00e9 complexe, ce proc\u00e9d\u00e9 est \u00e9galement appel\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0d\u00e9colletage\u00a0\u00bb en Fran\u00e7ais. A quels enjeux propres au Swiss Turn doit r\u00e9pondre un logiciel de CAM performant\u00a0?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb35px|0px|0|0px|false|false\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.2.2&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb||0px|||\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<h2>Swiss Turn\u00a0: des machines complexes \u00e0 param\u00e9trer<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Poup\u00e9e mobile, embarreurs, postes d\u2019outillage, broches secondaires, axes colin\u00e9aires\u2026 Des \u00e9tapes de mise en place \u00e0 l\u2019optimisation du programme, en passant par les \u00e9tapes de r\u00e9glage, les machines de d\u00e9colletage font preuve d\u2019une grande complexit\u00e9 et n\u00e9cessitent un param\u00e9trage rigoureux. En effet, les machines de Swiss Turn les plus complexes peuvent poss\u00e8dent jusqu\u2019\u00e0 plus d\u2019une douzaine d\u2019axes. Plusieurs petits outils peuvent donc travailler en m\u00eame temps sur la m\u00eame pi\u00e8ce, ou sur plusieurs pi\u00e8ces \u00e0 la fois. Le tout, dans un espace relativement restreint, puisque les plus grandes pi\u00e8ces font g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement 38mm de diam\u00e8tre, tandis que les plus petites peuvent descendre jusqu\u2019\u00e0 0,05mm de diam\u00e8tre. Pour toutes ces raisons, les machines de Swiss Turn sont <strong>d\u00e9crites comme complexes, puisque tout peut bouger en m\u00eame temps et qu\u2019il faut pr\u00e9voir en fonction un param\u00e9trage pointu<\/strong> des diff\u00e9rentes fonctionnalit\u00e9s. Il est donc n\u00e9cessaire de pouvoir s\u2019appuyer sur un logiciel permettant de combiner une gamme compl\u00e8te de cycles de fraisage, de tournage et de contr\u00f4le, prenant en charge tous les composants propres au Swiss Turn.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Les limites des logiciels de CAM traditionnels face au Swiss Turn<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Plusieurs logiciels de CAM sont encore limit\u00e9s en termes de gestion du nombre d\u2019axes et de canaux<\/strong>. Ils ne prennent pas en compte l\u2019environnement machine, ce qui fait qu\u2019ils ne sont pas op\u00e9rationnels avec toutes les machines. D\u2019autres ne permettent pas \u00e0 l\u2019utilisateur d\u2019avoir acc\u00e8s \u00e0 tous les param\u00e9trages, ce qui a pour cons\u00e9quence de devoir redonner de l\u2019information au pied de la machine.<\/p>\n<p>Plus grave encore, certains logiciels de CAM ne sont pas en mesure de g\u00e9n\u00e9rer un code ISO optimis\u00e9, du fait que l\u2019environnement et cin\u00e9matique machine ne sont pas g\u00e9r\u00e9s. Dans ces cas, l\u2019apport de manipulations manuelles par l\u2019utilisateur cr\u00e9e une importante source d\u2019erreurs, ce qui <strong>augmente le risque de collision de casse outil ou de casse pi\u00e8ce<\/strong>, une fois sur la machine.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; background_color=\u00a0\u00bb#D0001D\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb12px|0px|12px|0px|false|false\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.27.4&Prime;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff; font-size: x-large;\"><strong>La gamme de solutions CAO, FAO, ERP TopSolid<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=\u00a0\u00bb1_5,1_5,1_5,1_5,1_5&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; 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_builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_image src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/blog.topsolid.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/TSErp-1.png\u00a0\u00bb url=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/www.topsolid.fr\/produits\/topsoliderp.htm\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb align_tablet=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb align_phone=\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u00bb align_last_edited=\u00a0\u00bbon|desktop\u00a0\u00bb _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.23&Prime; border_radii=\u00a0\u00bbon|15px|15px|15px|15px\u00a0\u00bb border_color_all=\u00a0\u00bb#d0001d\u00a0\u00bb box_shadow_style=\u00a0\u00bbpreset6&Prime;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb35px|0px|35px|0px|false|false\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.2.2&Prime;]<\/p>\n<h2>Comment TopSolid\u2019Cam r\u00e9pond aux enjeux du d\u00e9colletage<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Du fichier CAO au code ISO, les programmeurs ont besoin de s\u2019appuyer sur un logiciel de programmation et de simulation performant, afin de pouvoir <strong>effectuer en amont des op\u00e9rations pr\u00e9paratoires d\u2019usinage<\/strong>, tandis que d\u2019autres op\u00e9rations se d\u00e9roulent en m\u00eame temps. Large \u00e9ventail de cycles de tournage et de fraisage, d\u2019usinage grande vitesse et de cycles 3D pour le fraisage en 3 et 5 axes simultan\u00e9s\u2026 Le logiciel CAM doit r\u00e9pondre aux exigences du d\u00e9colletage. Il doit \u00e9galement permettre de r\u00e9duire les temps de cycles, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 la synchronisation des processus et \u00e0 une parfaite ma\u00eetrise de l\u2019outil. Peu importe le type de centre de tournage, la solution CFAO doit g\u00e9n\u00e9rer des programmes tout-en-un et garantir un code ISO pr\u00eat-\u00e0-l\u2019emploi.<\/p>\n<p>Leader dans la programmation de machines complexes, <strong>TopSolid\u2019Cam<\/strong> r\u00e9pond parfaitement au besoin du m\u00e9tier du d\u00e9colletage et au besoin de son utilisateur, par la simplicit\u00e9 de sa programmation<strong>. Tr\u00e8s intuitif, ce logiciel donne acc\u00e8s \u00e0 tous les param\u00e9trages machine<\/strong> et offre la possibilit\u00e9 de r\u00e9elles simulations, fiables, fid\u00e8les et optimis\u00e9s. En optant pour TopSolid\u2019Cam, vous acc\u00e9dez \u00e0 une gestion du temps de programme la plus juste possible.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.topsolid.fr\/produits\/topsolidcam.htm\">Solution globale de CFAO, TopSolid\u2019Cam<\/a> r\u00e9pond aux besoins de\u00a0:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Swiss Turn<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Fraisage <\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Tournage<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Millturn<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Erosion<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Avec TopSolid\u2019Cam, il est possible de r\u00e9aliser l\u2019usinage d\u2019une pi\u00e8ce en une seule fois, m\u00eame si elle n\u00e9cessite plusieurs r\u00e9glages ou plusieurs machines. La segmentation du programme offre une meilleure stabilit\u00e9 et des passes plus efficaces, gr\u00e2ce au support de la poup\u00e9e mobile. Le logiciel permet d\u2019utiliser des mouvements synchronis\u00e9s et superpos\u00e9s, afin de gagner en temps de cycle sur l\u2019ensemble du processus. A partir d\u2019une seule interface, vous avez la possibilit\u00e9 de programmer et d\u2019optimiser des t\u00e2ches d\u2019usinages grande vitesse.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Solution globale de CFAO, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.topsolid.fr\/produits\/topsolidcam.htm\">TopSolid\u2019Cam<\/a> b\u00e9n\u00e9ficie d\u2019une interop\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 native, quel que soit le syst\u00e8me de CAO utilis\u00e9. M\u00e9canique g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, t\u00f4lerie, bois\u2026 Peu importe votre segment de march\u00e9, <strong>TopSolid\u2019Cam s\u2019adapte aux besoins de chaque entreprise.<\/strong> Son interface conviviale et innovante vous permet sur chaque projet de produire vite et bien.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb0|0px|25.4063px|0px|false|false\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.27.4&Prime;][\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=\u00a0\u00bb1_3,1_3,1_3&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb0|0px|30px|0px|false|false\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_3&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_image src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/blog.topsolid.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Demandez-un-RDV.png\u00a0\u00bb url=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/www.topsolid.fr\/contact.htm\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb align_tablet=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb align_phone=\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u00bb align_last_edited=\u00a0\u00bbon|desktop\u00a0\u00bb _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.23&Prime; module_alignment=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb||\u00a0\u00bb][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_3&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_image src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/blog.topsolid.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Obtenir-un-devis.png\u00a0\u00bb url=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/content.topsolid.com\/demandedevis\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb align_tablet=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb align_phone=\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u00bb align_last_edited=\u00a0\u00bbon|desktop\u00a0\u00bb _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.8.1&Prime; module_alignment=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_3&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.25&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00a0\u00bb|||\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_image src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/blog.topsolid.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Demande-dinformation.png\u00a0\u00bb url=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/www.topsolid.fr\/contact.htm\u00a0\u00bb align_tablet=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb align_phone=\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u00bb align_last_edited=\u00a0\u00bbon|desktop\u00a0\u00bb _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb3.23&Prime;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le Swiss Turn d\u00e9signe un type de machine \u00e0 la particularit\u00e9 d\u2019avoir la poup\u00e9e-mobile.  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